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		<title>Comment on Why pay to use an external consultant when we can self implement&#8230;? by Shell Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shell Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 22:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a lightning rod topic. No doubt Salesforce.com has spent a lot of time and resources developing a great user interface (UI) not only for Users, but for Administrators. 95% of the time you can create great solutions using Salesforce.com toolbox without writing code – that’s the argument that it’s easy enough to self implement.

That being said, to get the most out of the tool and to make solutions that add value to an organization takes experience with Salesforce.com and someone with some decent level of business acumen. That’s the value of a consultant. A good consultant can pull the requirements out of a customer and formulate a great solution leveraging the tools available. A great solution can be a mixture of things – low ongoing maintenance for the Administrator (it wasn’t “overdeveloped” with custom code), one that drives great User adoption because it adds value and also cost effective.

The second point that I would make is that Salesforce.com is not your father’s CRM. Salesforce in its brief existence has grown from a core CRM suite to a platform for development. A newbie is bound to be overwhelmed at the scale of the product – and many companies don’t have the time to stumble their way in their dark and risk launching a poor solution while the clock is ticking on licenses. 

To illustrate the point, I had a close friend start looking at Salesforce.com and the conversation on the phone went something like this: “You can have a portal? What’s a portal do? Do I need a portal? There’s more than one? Which portal do I need? It depends on what kind of access I need for my Portal Users? Well, wouldn’t it be access to everything?....”

More on this subject on my blog…. www.ShellBlack.com/SFDC/implementing/using-consultants/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a lightning rod topic. No doubt Salesforce.com has spent a lot of time and resources developing a great user interface (UI) not only for Users, but for Administrators. 95% of the time you can create great solutions using Salesforce.com toolbox without writing code – that’s the argument that it’s easy enough to self implement.</p>
<p>That being said, to get the most out of the tool and to make solutions that add value to an organization takes experience with Salesforce.com and someone with some decent level of business acumen. That’s the value of a consultant. A good consultant can pull the requirements out of a customer and formulate a great solution leveraging the tools available. A great solution can be a mixture of things – low ongoing maintenance for the Administrator (it wasn’t “overdeveloped” with custom code), one that drives great User adoption because it adds value and also cost effective.</p>
<p>The second point that I would make is that Salesforce.com is not your father’s CRM. Salesforce in its brief existence has grown from a core CRM suite to a platform for development. A newbie is bound to be overwhelmed at the scale of the product – and many companies don’t have the time to stumble their way in their dark and risk launching a poor solution while the clock is ticking on licenses. </p>
<p>To illustrate the point, I had a close friend start looking at Salesforce.com and the conversation on the phone went something like this: “You can have a portal? What’s a portal do? Do I need a portal? There’s more than one? Which portal do I need? It depends on what kind of access I need for my Portal Users? Well, wouldn’t it be access to everything?&#8230;.”</p>
<p>More on this subject on my blog…. <a href="http://www.ShellBlack.com/SFDC/implementing/using-consultants/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ShellBlack.com/SFDC/implementing/using-consultants/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Salesforce.com Makes Forbes&#8217; List of the 100 Most Trustworthy Companies by Tweets that mention Salesforce.com Makes Forbes’ List of the 100 Most Trustworthy Companies « Resource on Demand -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Salesforce.com Makes Forbes’ List of the 100 Most Trustworthy Companies « Resource on Demand -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Hot demand for salesforce.com specialists by Tweets that mention Hot demand for salesforce.com specialists « Resource on Demand -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Hot demand for salesforce.com specialists « Resource on Demand -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Salesforce.com consulting, what&#039;s more important: Certification or Experience? by Jack Dermody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Dermody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a funny one. But I would say both. Anyone with any real experience knows to get certification as soon as possible... 

I had almost every exam Salesforce offered inside 4 months of picking up the product but I have 13 years experience in CRM from developer to Senior Architect. All the younger staff I work with get certified as quickly as possible.


So the answer I would have to give is experience as long it was the right experience. 

By the way if you got no intelligence neither is no good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a funny one. But I would say both. Anyone with any real experience knows to get certification as soon as possible&#8230; </p>
<p>I had almost every exam Salesforce offered inside 4 months of picking up the product but I have 13 years experience in CRM from developer to Senior Architect. All the younger staff I work with get certified as quickly as possible.</p>
<p>So the answer I would have to give is experience as long it was the right experience. </p>
<p>By the way if you got no intelligence neither is no good.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Salesforce.com consulting, what&#039;s more important: Certification or Experience? by Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are looking for a force.com developer and its a tough slog. At this point, I&#039;d settle for either!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are looking for a force.com developer and its a tough slog. At this point, I&#8217;d settle for either!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Salesforce.com consulting, what&#039;s more important: Certification or Experience? by Paul Tarpey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Tarpey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lee,

This depends on the circumstance.  In an ideal world you would go and &#039;get&#039; someone with solid relevant experience knowing they will be quicker and produce high quality code.  Easier said than done I hear you say!  If you are in the situation where you don&#039;t know anyone and don&#039;t know who to trust to do the job, then the certification would give you a greater confidence if a bunch of CVs looking similar experience wise.

In my situation, having done partner certification ages ago and having lots of experience, I shan&#039;t go down the road of revising and paying for more exams and taking time out to do them.  Build up a reputation and use quality agents (like ROD).

Another beer you owe me..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee,</p>
<p>This depends on the circumstance.  In an ideal world you would go and &#8216;get&#8217; someone with solid relevant experience knowing they will be quicker and produce high quality code.  Easier said than done I hear you say!  If you are in the situation where you don&#8217;t know anyone and don&#8217;t know who to trust to do the job, then the certification would give you a greater confidence if a bunch of CVs looking similar experience wise.</p>
<p>In my situation, having done partner certification ages ago and having lots of experience, I shan&#8217;t go down the road of revising and paying for more exams and taking time out to do them.  Build up a reputation and use quality agents (like ROD).</p>
<p>Another beer you owe me..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Salesforce.com consulting, what&#039;s more important: Certification or Experience? by Sathish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sathish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Lee

I fully agree with this. One needs to get work experience as well as undergo some formal training to get better traction in this industry.

Sathish]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lee</p>
<p>I fully agree with this. One needs to get work experience as well as undergo some formal training to get better traction in this industry.</p>
<p>Sathish</p>
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		<title>Comment on Salesforce.com consulting, what&#039;s more important: Certification or Experience? by Anup Arora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anup Arora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would say experience would anyday have more weightage than certification. Though having a certification goes a long way in developing a certain amount of confidence in the customer&#039;s mind, but at the same point of time, it is the real life experience of the consultant that counts at the end of the day.
Having hands on experience with the system as well as awareness around business processes, requirement gathering &amp; analysis, data modelling, solution designing etc. are of extreme importance while working on a Salesforce.com Consulting engagement.
I now have a total consulting experience of approx. 5 yrs and have also completed my ADM 201 and CON 201 certifications. In my opinion, what is more important to have real life consulting experience, backed up by the relevant certifications that gives an edge to any Salesforce.com Consultant.
Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say experience would anyday have more weightage than certification. Though having a certification goes a long way in developing a certain amount of confidence in the customer&#8217;s mind, but at the same point of time, it is the real life experience of the consultant that counts at the end of the day.<br />
Having hands on experience with the system as well as awareness around business processes, requirement gathering &amp; analysis, data modelling, solution designing etc. are of extreme importance while working on a Salesforce.com Consulting engagement.<br />
I now have a total consulting experience of approx. 5 yrs and have also completed my ADM 201 and CON 201 certifications. In my opinion, what is more important to have real life consulting experience, backed up by the relevant certifications that gives an edge to any Salesforce.com Consultant.<br />
Cheers!</p>
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